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The Revenger's Tragedy by Anonymous (likely Thomas Middleton). Play readaloud. It was an effective and fun readaloud, but a few days later it feels a bit... forgettable? This play was one that I actually read for Shakespearean Genres in college -- I had just read Pamela Dean's Tam Lin and was very excited to see it on the reading list, but I don't remember that much about it from then either, college me having been much more into romance than revenge. I do see that I did some underlining of various forms of the word "grace", and some marking of land management metaphors for womens' chastity, and something about Hamlet -- which yeah, Vindice is kind of like Hamlet except he actually gets stuff done). This may be one of the plays where a lot of it is in the staging. That said, the plotting is very clever.

Dune, Frank Herbert. I guess I hadn't finished it when I wrote up my post last week? I don't have much to say about the ending, though I found the appendices mildly interesting. (Also there's a map, and it's in polar coordinates! Which makes sense, because the settlement of the planet is based around the pole, but I thought was an interesting contrast to the standard north-south/east-west generic fantasy map.)

Dune Messiah, Frank Herbert. Too much family drama, not enough sandworms / ecological worldbuilding? I watched the first episode of the Children of Dune miniseries after this, it was a faithful adaptation (and it helped that the book wasn't trying to do too much). Also I was disappointed that the character who was interviewed in the prologue disappeared and was never seen from again. (I kind of want to see these books adapted as a mockumentary, as the best way of dealing with all the epigraph material.)

Children of Dune, Frank Herbert. About 2/3 of the way in; still good that the story keeps on taking its female characters seriously, even if the sexism/gender essentialism does show. More sandworms/ecology stuff going on, along with exploration of what it's like to be a kid who has had generations of ancestors living in one's memory since one was born -- which makes one come off as preternaturally wise, but not mature in the same way as an adult. The plot is thickening, and I have some idea of where it ends up, but not of the details -- looking forward to getting back to this.

Date: 23 May 2024 09:11 (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] oursin
There's an intriguing movie version of The Revenger's Tragedy: 'In a post-apocalyptic Liverpool, a man returns seeking revenge for his wife's murder - and everyone speaks perfect Jacobean English'. Christopher Eccleston as Vindice; Eddie Izzard also features.

Date: 23 May 2024 18:51 (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] rachelmanija
Oh yes, I LOVE the movie.

Date: 23 May 2024 20:52 (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] choco_frosh
I got to see The Revenger's Tragedy live in Somerville a few years ago! That particular production had the conceit that the everybody involved was part of a slowly-failing circus ("The Judge" was the stage name of their strong man, the Duchess was the bearded lady, etc. etc.) so it was actually VERY memorable...

Also, I continue to be struck by how much Hamlet, The Revenger's Tragedy, and The Spanish Tragedy feel like Shakespeare, Kyd and Middleton all mutually decided to write plays based on a single prompt, which in turn was determined by rolling a set of Drama Dice:

"Okay, genre ... Revenge Tragedy!"
"A plague on't! I HATE revenge tragedies!"
"Aaannnd ... Elements ... Let's see... Okay: Dialogue with ghost and/or skull. Foreign Royalty/Nobility. Play-within-a-play."
"Yes! I love those!"
"No 'Gratuitous blood and guts'?"
"I assumed that was just understood."

Date: 29 May 2024 03:53 (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] carbonel
I quite liked Children of Dune, but I strongly recommend stopping there unless you're really into the series.

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